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July 24th, 1993 --------------- * Administrative notes: Goddamn Job. * "Hold My Life": Heather Chakiris's fave 'Mats songs...and some other stuff. * Kevin Curry from Seattle, the road to 'Mats fandom * Huy-Khan Vo's favorite songs, and some miscellaneous questions >>>Paul Westerberg concert stuff:<<< * Ric Dube -- outdoor show, July 16th, 1993 * Kevin Curry -- July 17th * Ryan, with a Chi-town date * And Mr. Tim, who made a cool Westerberg bootleg tape cover for anyone * How Heather Chakiris got backstage to meet the 'Mats =========================================================================== Postcard from the Flood: Hi guys! (in the neuter form, of course.) It's great to be back working with the Replacements Mailing List and Support Group, the // Skyway \\. Sorry if I've been a bit slow recently, but time has been killing me recently. I just quit my job at the Italian restaurant that I worked at. It was one of those situations where you're giving it 115% and the manager goes, "Hey, can you work a little faster, buddy?" and you go "Hey, can you kiss my ass, buddy?" So I gave them my 2-hour notice. After getting paid the Nebraska minimum for waiters ($2.13/hour...plus tips), I figured I didn't owe them anything. Now I work for a lawn service! At first I thought it'd be slave labor, but it's great having a job where I spend most of the hours of my day outside. It's only for the next month and a half, until I go back to sk00l. The only thing that sucks about it is that I work from 7:30 in the morning until about 8:30 at night, 5 days a week. So when I get home, all I've really had time to do is to deal with the "Please subscribe me!" messages that I get and save the issues for the weekend. And WOW...over 20 people have signed up since the last issue. (I don't know where all these people are coming from...the issue I posted on alt.music.alternative? Are you guys signing up all your friends and relatives?) So far this summer, there's 61 people signed up to the list. Not too big, not too small. Just right. Hey, anybody out there ever worked at Perkins or Denny's? I've been thinking about working there just until the end of the summer. My friends and I used to hang out there sometimes until 4 in the morning after we had nothing to do (I'm sure you know the story)...and I was just wondering if it'd fun being a waiter to a bunch of drunks at 4 a.m. So if you've got any stories and experience, tell/warn me now! Oh yeah...Ric Dube finished a new survey. (Thanks Ric!) He had the wonderful idea of waiting until the fall (when all the non-summer people get back) to send it out; but until then, if there's any questions that you'd like to add to it to find out more about your fellow //Skyway\\ members, send them to either me (guampo@parrot.creighton.edu) or Ric (dube@u.washington.edu... and don't forget to ask for his bootleg list.) Also, sorry if you get stuff from me/the list with a bigger header than normal due to a bounce. See, sometimes, for some reason, the PARROT computer will disconnect it's link to the internet, and then I get all my mail that I sent out that evening bounced back to me. That's also why sometimes you get file requests (such as discographies, "Best Of", etc.) three days after you write me. Sorry. But I shouldn't even have an account on this computer, anyway. (Eventually, I'll be getting an account on the new mainframe that should be in next month. The new address will be "skyway@[computername].creighton.edu". But I'll tell you more about that as the time comes.) HAVE YOU TRIED TO SEND ME SOMETHING AND IT BOUNCED? Sorry, but like I said, the brilliant system administrators at Creighton University disconnect the computer's internet link every so often for who-knows-what-reason. The result is that any message that you try to send bounces back to you. If you ever get that message, just try again tomorrow. This doesn't happen very often, but it's no fun when it does. Other than me in Nebraska, Mike Bischoff from Missouri, or S. Sochs from Ames Iowa, I don't think there are any other "Midwest flood" people out there on the list. (I think Minnesota is still above water, except for the island that Lollapalooza was supposed to be on.) If anybody out there has lost house, home, or life to the flood, my heart goes out to you. (Even though you probably wouldn't be reading this right now.) There IS a difference between a house and home. Just listen to "Here Comes a Regular". -- Matthew Tomich P.S. The transmission bill came out to $987.46. Thanks to all who wrote in with the sympathy. =========================================================================== From: CHAKIRIS.HEATHER (hlc2@oas.psu.edu) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 11:15 EDT Subject: Attitude I just realized that you and I were the same age when we were introduced to The Replacements. For you, it was _Don't Tell a Soul_ and "I'll Be You" -- for me, it was _Tim_ and "Bastards of Young." I'll tell you, Matthew, that song hit me right between the eyes. When I heard the lines, "The ones that love us best are the ones we lay to rest/We visit their graves on holidays at best/The ones that love us least are the ones we'll die to please" -- and the intensity with which Paul was expressing them -- I thought, "My God! There's somebody out there who *knows*!" And it never stopped. From _Tim_, I went back to _Let It Be_, and discovered perhaps the single most powerfully influential song in my life -- "Unsatisfied." I looked further, to _Hootenanny_ and _Sorry Ma_, and found "Color Me Impressed" and "Shut Up." It was as if this guy named Paul Westerberg had somehow tapped into my soul or something. We felt the same things, and expressed ourselves in the same way. Just like the song says, the age of 16 is the hardest age. If I hadn't found The Mats, I can say without hesitation, I would not be sitting here writing to you today. That's how powerful the connection is -- and that's how powerful music *itself* can be. Now, onto some of your questions: >>college stuff I hope you can follow this. ;-) I started out at a private liberal arts school called Marywood College, in northeastern Pennsylvania, as a radio and TV major. I was music director for the school's radio station -- which stretched throughout the county, not just the campus -- and also worked for a short bit in commercial radio, writing an "alternative" program that aired on Sunday evenings. After two years, I had had it with what I was doing. Marywood was (is) a Catholic school, and I wasn't Catholic. I was the only girl walking around campus in combat boots and hair like Robert Smith of The Cure. The nuns would stop me on a regular basis and ask me why did I have to look the way I looked -- to which I would reply, "You don't hear me complaining about *you*, do you?" I kept getting kicked off the air for doing things like playing Depeche Mode's "Blasphemous Rumours" immediately after being told not to by The Powers That Be (or who, at least, thought they were ;-). The area was a little too mentally cramped for my liking, so I packed up and headed to Boston, where I spent the next nine months of life in a sort of "punk underground." I got a mohawk, got stomped on at punk shows, and basically saw enough to make me see that I wanted to go back to school. I applied to Penn State (for reasons I'm still not sure of) as a telecommunications major, was accepted, and immediately changed my major to film. After two years in the film school, I decided I'd had enough (I get bored *so* easily sometimes ;-), changed my major to writing for the arts, and graduated in 1989. Before graduating, I won an award for one of my screenplays (a story that *no one* in my class thought I could write -- which is why I wrote it ;-). After graduating, I found out that one of my plays was being produced at the university (another story my classmates felt threatened by ;-). Now, four years later -- after a brief stint as an editor at the magazine "Highlights for Children" -- I'm the publications editor at Penn State's Department of Publications. We basically do all of the high-image pieces for the school -- admission recruitment pieces, fund-raising pieces, departmental catalogs. I'm having a tough time, really -- in a sort of tug- of-war with myself. There's still that part of me that wants another mohawk, but there's another side of me that has to pay the bills and be (gulp) responsible. Some things never die. Well, I've taken up a hell of a lot of space here, and I haven't even answered all of your questions. I guess I'll let you digest this for now, and send you something else a little later. --Heather "Sittin' in a pew ... Well, ain't we the chosen few." -- The Replacements, "Date to Church" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 23:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Curry Subject: Drivel and Stuff Matt- Thought I'd take a stab at your question regarding what song or album was most influential in making me a 'Mats fan. I didn't discover them until the tender age of 18, my freshman year in college. One of the guys on my floor introduced me to TIM and we went to a show in Portland, OR. So, in terms of influential, it's gotta be TIM and "Bastards of Young" as the song. After getting the album, though, my favorites turned to the 1-2 combination of "Left of the Dial" and "Little Mascara." In that summer after my frosh year the 'Mats were pretty important. I had also purchased DON'T TELL A SOUL and those two discs got pretty worn out. Specifically, "Bastards" was ringing really loudly in my life. Regarding the line someone else mentioned in the last issue, "The one's love us best...", I was living at the time with my best friend from High School who's father had just died of a heart attack, and that line really hit home. Both albums helped me survive the summer. Turning to my thoughts on "14 Songs", I also believe it takes some time. I felt the same way about Bash and Pop, and now that albums one of my favorites of the year. So those who currently bemoan the effort, give it time! I'm seeing Paul tommorow at RCKNDY with Ric Dube, so I'll drop you a review after the show. Kevin --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Huy-Khanh Vo (huykhanh@wam.umd.edu) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1993 13:13:27 -0400 Subject: If being afraid is a crime... hey what's up? great Westerberg review! I can't hardly wait! what kind of guitars did he use? Does he still have his Armstrong clear? What this with Tommy firing 2 bash & poppers? when? why? who are the new ones? Any chance he'll hire Bob and Chris? After reading all the personal "I discovered Paul and he saved my life" stories, i feel obliged to tell ya'll mine. One thing that seems consistent in these stories is how Paul's songs always relates to the fans. There's always that connection of how Paul was able to "understand" us. No other group has that feeling. The song that did it for me was "Swingin' party" - If being afraid is a crime, we'll hang side by side. Thanks, Paul! Hey Matt, for some reason I always thought you were older, like in graduate student older. How long has this list been running? Huy-Khanh Vo huykhanh@wam.umd.edu "How do say I'm lonely to an answering machine? Paul Westerberg "If it is so easy to be happy, why am I so down?" Bob Mould "What do you do when the ones you turn to go and turn on you?" Dave Pirner [Well, about guitars, when I saw him, he was using his Gibson SG (the cherry red one) and I think he had a Les Paul as well. I don't remember what kind of acoustic he had...Takamine, I think? I don't know if he ever took his clear lucite Armstrong on the road. Otherwise, I figure it'd be beat all to hell. Anybody out there have the definitive answer on the hiring/firing of the guitar/bass players in Bash and Pop? I know first it was Kevin Foley on bass, and then Caleb Palmementer (used to play with the Magnolias), and now she has...whatshername? And the guitarist (Keith Richards look alike) got swapped for whom now? Heh. Hire Bob and Chris. I didn't even think of that one. Judging by the Spin article (whose nature has a question in the upcoming survey), it sounds like to me a "no way" on Bob. And I wonder if Chris would even say yes! Any other comments out there? -- Matt, ed.] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1993 08:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Ric Dube Subject: Paul Westerberg Two shows for Paul Westerberg this weekend in Seattle. The first was at Seattle Center Amphitheater, as the headlining act on the first day of the Bite of Seattle food festival: The show was outdoors, the weather was really nice. Paul's band came on stage a little after eight. The show was scheduled to go until 9:30. Two interesting things in particular happened. First, two power outages during the show delayed things about 15 minutes total. The first one was no big deal, just a typical "what happened?", "oh, this happened" kind of situation. The second one is more notable because it happened right during the pause in "I'll Be You," just before the coda. After the ten minute delay, the band came right back in with the coda that wraps up the song. Nice. The other incident worth mentioning is that there was at least ten or twelve feet of empty space between the edge of the stage and the barricade that held the audience back. Westerberg commented on how huge that was and said that they could just as easily play down there. So he did. His roadie hauled the mike stand down, Paul jumped off the stage and performed three songs inches away from the front row of people. While the power was out, he played his acoustic for the front rows. Here's the set-list: waiting for somebody mannequin shop achin' to be first glimmer waitress in the sky world class fad dice behind your shades a few minutes of silence merry-go-round dyslexic heart daydream believer can't hardly wait i'll be you down love left of the dial alex chilton encore: runaway wind i will dare "I Will Dare" is worth noting because it they did it a way I haven't heard in a real long time. After the guitar solo, when the song comes back with the last verse and coda, the band did it half-time, like a broadway number's big finish. This, the 'mats used to do pretty often -- what I've never heard before is that the band gradually speeded up, from that kind of grandiose tempo, faster and faster, until it was as fast as "Dope Smokin' Moron" or somethin'. Loud fast rules, man. All in all, a very fun show, if uneven. The midtempo ballads sometimes felt flat, mainly because they didn't sound real pretty. This wasn't the band's fault -- the sound was a little distorted because I think they were trying to get more volume out of the sound system than they really should have. It was a great time of course. Unfortunately Kevin "Can't Hardly Wait" Curry couldn't make the scene because he had to work. But as I told him after the Saturday night show at RockCandy (which he was able to make) he didn't miss nothin' on Friday night compared to Saturday night... ...because Saturday night was one of the best shows I have ever seen. Paul was pretty much better than I've ever seen him in terms of his playing and singing. Kevin was supposed to send in the set list, so I won't bother posting it. I have a tape of the Friday night show. It is not that great sounding, mainly because it's so loud, so I won't trade with it. But I will make copies of it for people for free. All you have to do is send me a blank tape as well as a *pre-posted mailer*. If you do not include a pre-posted mailer, forget about ever seeing your tape again. You should get your tape back within a week -- the reason I sometimes take so long trading is finding the time to buy blanks and get to the post office. I won't have to do that if you send me the tape and the mailer. I'll also make a custom insert for the tape; it'll be cool. I may be getting a video of this same show, as well as an audio of the Saturday night show, but when I get those they'll go on my regular list and I'll trade them the way I normally do. ___________________________________________________________________________ Ric Dube | To join The Skyway, the all-Replacements dube@u.washington.edu | mailing list, write: | skyway@phoenix.creighton.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kcurry@carson.u.washington.edu Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1993 02:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Set List From Seattle Show Matt- I'm way too tired to write a review at this hour (2AM), but here is the set list from one FUCKIN' GREAT SHOW! Paul Westerberg- RCKNDY, Seattle, WA, July 17, 1993: Another Girl, Another Planet Waitin' For Somebody Manaquin Shop Achin' to Be First Glimmer Waitress in the Sky World Class Fad Dice Behind Your Shades A Few Minutes of Silence Merry Go Round Someone I Once Knew Knockin' On Mine Skyway Things ? (Some Cover we couldn't figure out) Dyslexic Heart Swingin' Party Runaway Wind Can't Hardly Wait Daydream Believer I'll Be You FIRST ENCORE Here Comes A Regular Silver Naked Ladies Down Love Left of the Dial SECOND ENCORE Alex Chilton Total Time for the show was 100 minutes. I'll drop you more on the show later. I'm sure Ric will too. Kevin Curry --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: nyran@merle.nwu.edu Subject: tour info (chicago) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 93 20:10:35 CDT just in case anyone wanted to know... the paul westerberg concert for chicago is on august 19 at the cabaret metro, a really cozy place that holds about 1500. if anyone wants any info on getting tickets for the show or places to stay if they were coming in from somewhere, you can e-mail me. thanks nate ryan nryan@merle.nwu.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 93 15:44:10 PDT From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis) Subject: westerberg bootleg covers, anyone? to any westerburg tapers, i made a nice tape cover for the slim's show last week but my buddy's DAT died at the show. to describe it, i scanned the cover of "let it be", changed the title to "let it be me" and electronically airbrushed everyone but paul out of the shot. paul's up on the roof looking over into nothingsville. i'd hate for this cover to go unused because i put a good amount of time into it. so if anyone did tape slim's or any other show contact me. tim-o tim@vestek.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHAKIRIS.HEATHER (hlc2@oas.psu.edu) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 16:16 EDT Subject: Meeting the Mats .. And she's back with more STUFF ... >>How'd you pull that off? [...getting backstage to see the 'Mats] Hmmmmm ... I'm trying to remember exactly how we *did* pull it off. Well, it was in Philly during a _Tim_ show. My friends Doug and Kevin decided they wanted to "do The Mats" as front and center as they could possibly get. My friend Lisa and I stayed back, kind of watching everything from the sidelines. At one point, we found ourselves by the entrance to the backstage area. A very VERY big man was seated on a stool beside it. At some point, Lisa decided that she was gonna get us backstage, so she approached the very VERY big man and asked if we could go backstage. He said, "As long as I don't see you, you can do anything you want." So, Lisa and I stayed close by the guy -- as soon as he turned his back, we made our move. Not much of a challenge, eh? ;-) >>How'd you get to know them? Basically by showing up everywhere they were. (Oh to have the time and the freedom to do that again!) We'd travel to Philly and New York at first, then when I moved to New England, I started to follow them from New Haven, Connecticut, through Providence, Rhode Island, and up to Boston and Worcester, Massachusetts. Once I moved back to Pennsylvania, I was back to doing the Philly and Pittsburgh thing. (I've got a great story about the time I got the crap kicked out of me at a Pittsburgh show during the _Don't Tell a Soul_ tour.) Like I said, I've never seen them sober (or vice versa), so it's debatable that they'd even remember me or any of my friends. In that frame of mind, anyone holding a bottle of beer is your best friend. Follow? >>It just sucks that they called it quits. Oh, I disagree. After _Don't Tell a Soul_ I was *happy* they called it quits. They were getting in each other's ways. It was obvious on stage, and it was obvious off stage. I was SO excited when I heard _All Shook Down_, 'cause _Don't Tell a Soul_ scared the shit out of me. (You probably already know that _All Shook Down_ was supposed to be Paul's solo record, right? I'll stop here before I get on my record company soapbox. ;-) I think they desperately needed to split up and do their own thing for awhile. I compare the band to a child bride. You've got to do an awful lot of living before you can make that kind of commitment. (I'm not discounting any possibility of a reforming down the road, though.) Well, enough for one week. You've got a life outside of this, and so do I! ;-) Until our next "meeting," I'll leave you with this: "Song of the bird way up in the sky, but the most beautiful by far is the scream of the man who never learned to fly. Even here, even here, we are." Amen, brother! Have a good weekend, Matthew! --Heather [Is that "Whisper to a Scream (Birds Fly)" by Icicle Works?] fin.