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Since the last issue, I bought a new computer and installed Windows '95 on it. Three weeks later, it finally works...after repeated episodes when I had to use every bit of self-restraint I could muster not to add an ironic twist to the program's name with a violent act of defenstration with my computer as the victim. This issue was finished last Friday night and ready to send out...that is, until SOMEBODY (who won't confess) in my family thought that the hapless unmarked disk sitting on top of my computer was a blank disk just crying out to be re-formatted and turned into a Doom 2 save game disk! ARRRRRRRRGGGH!!!!!! So, finally, here it is.) La Mesa de Stuff: * The Swingin' Party and other extracurricular activies. (M@) * Hey, were they talkin' about THAT C.C. Club on the Today Show? (Bard Lowry) * Bring in the fresh meat! New people... (George Makovic, Bill Ruef, David Murrow, Matt Sweeney) * LATEST INFO ON THE UPCOMING PAUL ALBUM! (Elizabeth S.) * alt.music.replacements.joke.ha.ha (Duncan DeGraffenreid) * Finally, lyrics to the indecipherable "Nowhere is My Home"! (Amy Hacksaw, et al.) * Tommy Stinson show date in Minneapolis (Dean Roe) * Early 'Mats out of print? (Chris Kohler) * _Hootenanny_ heralded in "Guitar World" (Tom Brinkman) * The 'Mats listing in the Rolling Stone record guide (Bill Ruef) * "Men w/o Ties" lyrics (Laura Weislo) * The Westerberg Way or... (Heather Chakiris) * _Pleased to Meet Me_ tour Westerberg interview from the L.A. Times (David Murrow) * Review of the new Westerberg tunes on the "Friends" soundtrack (Becky Blenkush) * New source to get CD bootlegs! (Bill Ruef) * Kick butt rare/officially unreleased 'Mats songs discography (Bill Ruef) * Dave Minnehan and the Neighbords (the prolific Bill Ruef, again!) * The Bottlerockets and 'Mats-influences (interview excerpt) (Matt Proud) * TALENT SHOW: 'Mats covers from a.m.r. and Skyway and major bands! (put together by Teddie James) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (The long-winded intro part by whoever puts these issues together goes here.) SWINGIN' PARTY '95 (With not as many errors as Windows '95, but with less equity in the stock market.) Friday, September 22st, 1995: Minneapolis, Minnesota ----------------------------------------------------- Last night, I got into Minneapolis, the city of Westerberg, Pirner, Mould, Hart, Louris, Dankert, and too many et al's. It'd hard to believe that this cosmopolitan jewel just rises out of the stoic agricultural wastes of Middle America. The whole feel of the city is much farther east than a due north of Iowa. The look of the populace runs the gammut from the original flannel and jeans (Minneapolis knew snow before Seattle knew Sub Pop) to a European- tinged dark professional somberness of the very-very-well-to-do young professionals that fill the downtown skyways and always newly-paved blacktop with their Saturns and reserved demeanor. The Twin Cities is America's Toronto thrown into the middle of a farmer's field. I drove up to Minneapolis Thursday night. Friday, I figured I'd just bum around the city and let intuitive serpendipity take its course. I woke up, got in my car, and promptly got lost. Eight hours later, I arrived at the primary foci of the fiesta: the house of Ron and Jean. This couple is the epitome of Minnesotan hospitality and from- the-heart historians /non-grata/ of the Minneapolis music scene. Both imports, from Wisconsin and Iowa respectively, they came to the holy mecca of Du and have never left. They have intimate knowledge of the mid-80's heyday of the era of Candy Apple Grey, Tim, and While You Were Out, they've seen Husker Du being filmed in downtown Minneapolis for the Today show, and they've seen Bob Stinson wail with the 'Mats. And on top of it all, they have a venerable music library of exclusive tapes, rarely seen videos, and ages old articles worthy of the Library of Congress to share with you...which they'll lucidly and enthusiatically do until you're ready to drop at 4 a.m. And then they'll make you breakfast in the morning. It beats the heck out of me why these two haven't made a killing opening some sort of indie rock bed n' breakfast yet. We didn't have to wait for long before the first people started showing up. There's always that first moment of shock when you run into what is probably best described as pen-pals..."do I look like how I read?" But you're both in the same boat of quasi-familiarity and after a few seconds of confusion of meeting somebody "for real" fades. And so the first arrivees of Keith, Shannon, Ron, Jean, and I trotted off to Ron and Jean's radio shift. We ate at a Vietnamese place next to the world's most angst-ridden coffee shop. It was so angry, that nobody was inside...they were so punk rock, they had to hang out outside in the cold and peer in through the cracked spidered glass of the entrance door of the sold-out suckers who actually paid for something inside. And across the street was a vegan coffee shop with a wizened folk singer that could've been my father's father, crooning about union troubles. We were evidently knee-deep in the color of the local 'scene' before we even stepped into a single club. Then, after throughly demonstrating my ability at making U-turns, we arrived at Muddy Waters, the cafe that we were due to meet up with any other suckers who traversed their way to the colder parts of the world to hang out with perfect strangers. People filtered in one by one with that look of like they thought they knew what they were doing, but they weren't quite sure. "Hey, are you guys...with...uhm...the group..." But soon enough we were half-blocking the aisle of the petite coffeehaus, so we traversed en masse down the path to the tavern of taverns in Mats-lore, the faved hangout of Westerberg n' Co., the locale where the Stinsons' Mom was employed and where the band used to before and after every recording session: The C.C. Club. This joint just reeked of history, even though I didn't know half of it. The velvet red Spanish tinged decor was obviously still in place when the spot was monikered The C.C. Tap at least a decade and a half ago. The two smoke- eater machines do all they can to make the air in the place half-visible, and the CD jukebox looks like somebody had stolen everything from the heavy rotation box from a mid-80's college radio station and threw it together with some bands from the last State Fair and the Lemonheads. And on an average weekend night, you'll inevitably meet somebody that somebody calls famous. All gathered around a group of tables in the middle of the bar, I couldn't help but notice that Westerberg was right when he said that the Replacements fans are different than the costumed Cure and Smiths followers. I thought I'd encounte a clan of flannel shirts and Converse high tops, but there really wasn't a typical look for a 'Mats fan. Sitting together, we all looked like a reunion of misfits that were as diverse and un-uniform as a post-college Breakfast Club. Hunkered together were this group of were 20-something college graduates, a butcher from Wisconsin, an employee of the Republican bunker of Merril Lynch, an RA from Michigan, a biotech wizard who is working on a synthethic lung, very-successful-yet-boredly-unsatisfied young professionals, and two women who didn't know what the hell was going on. (The names have been left out to protect the guilty.) All of us were happily stuck in the same boat of a group of people who we all commonly shared half- familiarity and a general congreniality of musical taste. It seemed like the walls easily came down with the help of fermented lubrication and the easy trust like you can give the stranger sitting next to you on the plane; you may never see them again, so go ahead and say whatever you want or say it all. But the weekend was hardly a McLaughlin Group of musical trivia but rather lots of stories about this, that, life, love, employment, and modern age ennui. By 1 a.m., we decided to leave the C.C. before we became part of the floor for the night or we spent the rest of the weekend hooked up to iron lungs. Saturday, September 23rd ------------------------- The next morning, those staying at Ron's converged on the C.C. Club once more for a cardiologists-be-damned heartfelt breakfast, which was highlighted when Bard Lowry ordered a C.C. Club T-shirt ('A fast solution to a temporary setback.' b/w 'Achin' to Be...THERE') "on the rocks with a twist." He got a slighty-wet, acidicly-tinged shirt with an ice cube and a used lemon on the top from the smirking barmaid. By 2 p.m., Ron and Jean's living room was covered in videotapes, cassettes, photocopied articles, 7" singles, drinks (varying from Milwalkee's Best to Chris Kohler's Non-Alcoholic Gut Brew), deli food, and free 'Mats T-shirts (thanks to Bill Ruef!) When cabin fever started setting in, we all PILED in the back of Bill Ruef's family van (after removing the seats) for a site- filled ride around Minneapolis that culminated in a visit to the house on the cover of _Let It Be_. (The current residents are apparently both musicians and fond of beer.) Dinner was at some Sri Lankan restaurant that was both delicious and akin to inhaling propane with an M-80 as a chaser. (At least for my unaccustomed stomach!) That night, we all romped over to the 400 Club to see veteran locals Run Westy Run. (One of their guitar players was a dead ringer for Dave Minnehan!) They either rocked or stumbled on the edge of mediocity depending on who you talked to. Regardless, it was definitely the textbook 'local band at a local club in Middle America' show: beer, smokes, loud guitars, lots of people looking alternately bored, excited, drunk, rowdy, pierced, and/or gone. It was a great time, like that refreshing feeling of hanging out with new friends and meeting new people with the added bonus of everybody catching all the lyrical allusions in your favorite conversational phrases. We were all hanging around the bar, dance floor, and parking lot getting our eardrums blown out by career rockers when all of sudden, Keith tapped me on the shoulder and pointed out what unbelieveably looked like an all-too-familiar shaggy-haired guy smoking a cigarette leaning in the corner. I kept squinting, trying to disbelieve myself that it was who I thought it was, like when you triple check a winning lottery ticket in disbelief. Keith and I looked at each other in shock and surprise...we couldn't believe our luck! The coincidence of all of us traversing up to Minneapolis and running into the guy that started it all in the first place... Ah, no...I'm full of shit. We didn't see anybody like that. I was just wonderin' how closely you were botherin' to read all this stuff. Sunday, September 24th ---------------------- The last day of vacation you always think of all the stuff that you wanted to do didn't get a chance to. There was so much of Minneapolis left to see, so many things left to talk about, and we didn't even get the chance to hit First Avenue. Around Ron and Jean's gracious breakfast for us all, I couldn't help but to think about how it seemed like we all just got here and we all just met. It took a while to get out the house, and eventually to get out of town. I had a load of new tunage and stuff to read, but it was like the last day of camp: at the end, you remember everything that you're going to miss. I don't know if it was as good or better or worse for everybody else who was there, but I know I had a blast. But it really did seem like one of those perfect inter-chemistry get togethers where no person was extraneous to the flow of things and it seemed like everybody was there for some reason or another, even if it was just to get out of town. We all agreed that we'd have to do it again next year, or sooner or whenever. I had a great ride back with my old (well, not that old) schoolmate Mikey Bischoff. We talked bunches about the weekend and saw what we both agreed to be the most beautiful sunset that we've seen in our lives when driving west through Iowa. It was a perfect ending to a great weekend. Thanks to... (First and foremost, undoubtedly....) * Ron n' Jean for the dialogue on the inevitable entropy of magnetic recording media, the door prizes to everybody of copies of the '85 Mats performance on Saturday Night Live, the great breakfast on Sunday, and just plain everything else. It may not have happened without them, or at least it wouldn't have been half as much fun! * Bill Ruef for the kick ass 'Mats t-shirts that he had made (from the drummer of the Georgia Satillites, no less), playing taxi with the family van, and the fine selection of meats and cheeses that he brought so beautifully laid out in the safety of that bait bucket. * Bard Lowrey for the rental car and all the stories from college (I loved the ones about the drug cartel down the hall and the hot tub in the dorm room the best) and bein' some damn generous with the plastic everytime we turned around. * Shannon and Keith for Ron and I keeping them up with emphatic and incessant babble when they were trying to sleep. * Chris Kohler for that unforgettable non-alcoholic beer that still had a potent effect (on at least my stomach)! * Becky Blenkush for the great Tommy Stinson stories and for having the guts to write the book. (About the Replacements, not about the weekend.) * And really, everybody who went out of their way and showed up. --- And hey, if you live in Missouri or anywhere nearby, the band that I'm currently playing with, "Three Piece Adversary Set", is playing in Columbia, Missouri with "Petting Zoo" (who was featured on "The Fans Hit Back" Skyway bands complilation tape) and Chapel Hill, North Carolina's "Small" (formerly Small 23). If you want to come and see some Skyway people, great! ...but the highlight of the night is definitely Small. These guys have the two-guitar, melodic-but-rockin' thing down like nobody else, and the Replacements comparisions from critics aren't few and far between. The show is Thursday, October 26th on the University of Missouri (Mizzou) campus at 9 p.m. (It's in the same building at the radio station. Write me if you're thinking of going and I can send you more specific info as I get it.) And if this is enough to pique your interest in Small but you're not near Missouri, you can either reach their web page at http://www.cybercat.com/small or here's the rest of their tour dates (but my band won't be with them except on the 26th): 10/24 - Boone, NC @ University 10/26 - Columbia, MO @ University 10/27 - Kansas City, MO @ The Daily Grind 10/28 - Denver, CO @ 2126 Arapahoe 11/1 - Silverlake, CA @ Spaceland 11/2 - Los Angeles, CA @ Jabberjaw 11/3 - Phoenix, AZ @ Nile Theater 11/4 - Tucson, AZ @ Luna Loca Cafe 11/5 - El Paso, TX @ The Attic 11/7 - Austin, TX @ Emo's 11/8 - Houston, TX @ TBA 11/9 - Corpus Christi, TX @ The Record Hole 11/10 - Denton, TX @ The Argo 11/11 - Edmond, OK @ The Pagan Festival 11/12 - Fayetteville, AK @ The Skate Station 11/13 - Birmingham, AL @ American Beat Records 11/14 - Atlanta, GA @ Midtown Music Hall 11/15 - Columbia, SC @ Clyde's 11/16 - Chapel Hill, NC @ Cat's Cradle Hey, the other night, I was hanging out in Long John Silver's (welcome to the zenith of entertainment in Middle America) and I overheard the manager and the assistant manager talking about how great business is every Friday because all the Catholics come in on fish day...no joke! And if you're in the Twin Cities, be sure to write in and say how the Tommy Stinson show coming up was! (read on for details) "Rock over London, rock over Minneapolis!" -- M@ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Bard Lowry (blowry@inetdirect.net) Subject: Mats Reference....*The Today Show* Date: 1 Oct 1995 16:34:57 GMT During my never ending pursuit of information concerning this OJ Simpson mystery, I happened to be watching the *Today Show* on Sunday (Oct. 1st) and saw somebody holding up a sign that read.... CC Club.....'95 Reunion There was more on there, but it went by too fast to catch it. Was this possibly one of the Swingin' Party contingent? By the way, anyone else out there listening to *Born To Quit* by the Smoking Popes? It's like Green Day, only good. (Sorry Joe) :) ******************************************************************* "..without music, life would be a mistake (Friedrich Nietzsche) ******************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 95 12:41:00 PDT From: "Makovic, George" Subject: List hits the fans My name's george and it's been 4 days since I've listened to the Replacements. (Blathering new member speech to follow) My mother's side of the family lives in St. Paul/Minneapolis. My cousin kept telling me about her boyfriend's band and how they'd be going places. After reading about the Mats in a magazine, I figured it must be them and promptly bought _Let_It_Be_. As it turns out, the band was not the Mats, but instead some group called Ground Zero. That was my indirect introduction to the band. Saw the band for the first time in Chicago ('87) at the Riviera (with Royal Crescent Mob) and witnessed a raucous and liquor-soaked show (yes, they did "Battleship Chains"). I saw them 2 other times on that tour. I also saw them open for Tom Petty and the incredible end of tour show for _Don't_Tell_A_Soul_. The _All_Shook_Down_ shows were, for the most part, a disapointment. Wish I could have seen them with Bob, 'cause of the bootlegs I've heard, the ones with him are the best. I've accumulated a decent collection of bootlegs and will list them in a future message. I have a bootleg tape of outakes from PTMM (with stuff like "jungle rock", "tossin and turnin") and recently saw what looked to be a semi-legitmate release. It looked like PTMM, but had a red and yellow cover. (It was outrageously expensive.) Does anyone out there have this? If so, how's the sound quality? I have to admit that I felt _14_Songs_ could have been better (not that I wouldn't have bought it anyway). Whenever I think about it, I'm reminded of something Brian Wilson said about artists not being held accountable for past glories. It would be ridiculous to expect the Stones to ever top (insert your favorite Stones record here, mine's _Exile_On_Mainstreet): that's precisely what makes it such a brilliant album. Paul is still an incredible songwriter, but the Replacements were a one-of-a-kind band. How many times have we all been burned by records that were reviewed as being "Replacementesque"? Blah, blah, blah. I met Paul once and told him that I learned to write songs by ripping him off. He just laughed and said that he hoped I make more money than he did. Sorry so long - looking forward to obsessing bout those Mats with you. L.L.Y.F.F., george makovic ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 27 Aug 95 21:48:26 EDT From: Bill A Ruef <102144.3242@compuserve.com> Subject: Hello / Bio Well I've been subscribed to //s\\ for about a week now and have already down loaded and read a bunch of back issues and best of's and I'm finally getting around to sending my hello note. The first thing I've noticed about this list and alt.music.replacements is everyone is so friendly and helpful and genuinely nice. I don't know if it's Mats fans, internet people, or if I had just become too cynical about people in general, but I'm really thrilled to be part of this big happy family (Big happy family? Somehow that and the Replacements seem mutually exclusive). First a bit of background: I'm 31 and seem to be one of the few people in this group who's not in college. I live in southern Wisconsin near Madison (remember Treatment Bound - "we work from town to town - Duluth to MADISON...) which I feel is one of the many reasons The Replacements are so special to me. They're practically a home-town band, having played in Madison many times throughout their career (and I kick myself daily for having never seen them) and I feel I can relate to them more being from the same region. Anyway, I originally got into The Replacements when I bought DTAS for "I'll Be You". I thought it was great but didn't really become obsessed with them yet. Then when ASD came out I hated it and thought it was a big let down (I've since changed my opinion) after DTAS and that was that. Then, a couple years later I was starting to get into lots of "alternative" and punk and went to a used record shop and picked up a bunch of stuff that I thought fit in that genre, including vinyl copies of Tim, Stink, and Sorry Ma. I put all three on one cassette so I could listen to it in the car etc. Than the big turning point came when I started a big project of building a simple wall in my basement for my recording studio equipment. Since I've never done any kind of building before, the project took me about a month, working by myself. I brought a boombox and small box of tapes down to listen to while I worked, including the above mentioned tape. It turned out to be the one I listened to most (probably 20 + times over the course of the project). Those three albums just evoked so many emotions from me while I was down there pounding nails and just generally contemplating life in general, that the band had from that point permanantly touched my heart and my soul. And the rest is history.... I have one other personal Mats experience that I'd like to relay. These personal stories would all seem kind of hokey to a non-fan, but I believe to be a Replacements fan is to have something special inside that coincides with actually enjoying reading these things (I know I've enjoyed reading other peoples'). Anyway, this was just one of those special moments I'm sure you've all had that always sticks with you. I think it was winter of '93/'94. For some reason I can't remember, I was in my mother-in-law's new car which was a really nice sporty Toyota with a sun-roof. I had my son (then almost 3) with me, and to make a long story short I found myself driving down an interstate on a cold winter day with the sun roof open, and the heat cranked and my little boy sleeping in the seat beside me, and the song "Things" playing loudly on the stereo. Something about the whole moment just made me think how much I love my son and that all was right with the world. The beautiful, reassuring feel of the song contributed to that feeling in no small way. Again, this would probably sound like so much pap to most, but I bet most of you readers have had similar moments involving Paul's music and can relate. Anyway, this is getting really long and I haven't even cut to the chase yet. While as I've said I never saw the Mats, I have seen both Bash & Pop and PW. Oddly enough Bob Stinson's band "Bleeding Hearts" was scheduled to play in a different club in Madison the same evening as Paul, but after PW's show, we headed over to the other club and were told that the show was canceled. Anyway as expected both the shows I did see were incredible. One oddity, in every description I've seen of shows from Paul's '93 tour, he's played Daydream Believer. When I saw him he didn't do that one, but did do a cover of the Vapors' awsome '80's hit "Turning Japanese" (David sang). I've never heard anyone mention them doing that one and wonder if we were the only ones lucky enough (it was pretty sloppy and might have been off the cuff.) The only other thing I want to mention is that I am just starting to build up a 'Mats Boots / Tapes collection. While I don't have much right now I am expecting some trading stock soon. I would also be willing to send postage and blank tapes to anyone that would be willing and kind enough to dupe their stuff for me. If anyone has original material like boots on vinyl or CD or officially released rarities that they'd be willing to sell, I'd be interested in those also. So please send me your lists. Oh!! One final note. My wife and I recently found out that we are expecting our second child next April. You'll all be happy to know that if it's a boy the middle name WILL BE PAUL !!! (I can't believe I got her to agree to that!!!) Anyway take care and please send me those lists. Thanks. Bill Ruef 102144.3242@compuserve.com [I saw Paul do it at the University of Missouri, October 1993, and it he reportedly doing it at several shows before then. I think it actually replaced "Daydream Believer" in the set. -- M@] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David_Murrow@ahold.nl Subject: Paul & Johnette Hello Skywegians.....sounds like a country, doesn't it? Like "Hi, I'm from the country of Skyway; thus, I am a Skywegian." Dunno why my message is starting out this way, maybe it's a subconscious thing in me as a result of a Seinfeld repeat on the BBC recently, where George has a line that goes... "I'm speechless.....I am without speech." Anyway...... There is a hot buzz over Johnette Napitalino (spellcheck pls??) and her Pretty & Twisted CD, on which there's a song co-written by Paul Westerberg. I think the tune is called "Strange" -- I haven't heard it, but her CD and tour is getting raves. Has anyone heard this song? Also, being out of the US, I hear that there's a TV show called "Friends", and on its requisite CD, there's a Paul number? Am I confusing this with the Melrose Place soundtrack song? Or is Paul really doing the New Generation TV show circuit? Any new cool bands out there on your CD players covering Mats songs?? What's the latest word on Paul's recording? Amsterdam is a long way away from First Avenue, so I'll be there in spirit with you intrepid travellers in two weekends... David Murrow david.murrow@corp.ahold.nl PS -- Good work Matt -- keep it up. I mean the list, not the lawn mowing! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: barett@netcom.com (Matt Sweeney) Subject: New person Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Well, I'm new here and the opening message said to say hi so...here we go. Hi, That was easy ;) Ok, ok, ok ;) My name is Matt Sweeney. I live in Maryland in the DC metro area. I got into the Mats about 2 years ago almost 3. I had recently met this guy who kept raving about them and how Paul was one of the best song writers ever. So one day I was in a Kemp Mill and saw Don't Tell A Soul in the budget section of a Kemp Mill and bought it. I liked the feel of the songs. It wasn't the best thing I had heard but I thought it wasn't to shabby. A little while later I got ASD and thought that wasn't too bad either (I was just getting over suicidal thoughts at this point in my life so I was in a bit of a funk). My next album was Stink. Now this I liked. I was just really finding hardcore and this hit a good spot. A few months later I bought Hootenany (since the same friend as before along with a few of his friends, declared it the greatest rock song ever written). I got in a little more. Though I have to admit the genuis of The Mats only hit me a few weeks ago. I was in a record store in picked up Tim and Let It Be. All I listened to for the next week was those albums. Those are the only albums I own since I got side tracked with other musical tastes inbetween, that and I have a habit of being broke. Personally I guess I'm not to diffrent from most Mats fans. I grew up in the burbs I'm a white male. 20 years old. I'm going to college. I was attending Radford University till they asked me to take a semester off and my parents decided I should get a AA before I went for my BA. Taste wise i think I might vary a bit. I listen to the obvious music (huskers, fugazi, jawbox, sebadoh, basically all indie rock/pop and punk), though I also listen to some classical (John Cage, Phillip Glass), Jazz, Blues, and basically all groove (phish, Blues Traveler, God Street Wine, Flying Mice, etc.) as well as bascially anything that isn't tired Top 40. I'm currently starting a groove zine focusing on small indie groove bands. I have only one 'Mats boot (5/3/91) and one Paul boot (7/21/93). I'm interested in getting more but not sure how to do it. Things seem a little different in handling these things then with the groove scene (have 68 live tapes all together with more on the way). So if anyone wants to help me ;) I guess that's all talk to you guys later. Bye. matt -- ________ / \ | |\ | "I've seen a lot of things in my life, | / | \ | I saw a woman give birth, | \ | / | I saw a man punch a nun, | |/ | I saw a baby drinking a beer, | | | Man, I hate takeing Grey Hound" | \ | / | | \| | Tom Rhodes \________/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: estuck@mindspring.com (Elizabeth S.) Subject: A little touch of Paul in the night... Date: Sun, 1 Oct 1995 23:30:21 -0400 >From today's edition of Addicted to Noise at http://www.addict.com/ATN/Music_News_Of_The_World/ Paul Westerberg Rockin' In L. A. OK, awright. Direct from the L. A. recording studio where Paul Westerberg is, even now, working on his next solo album, we have the official word that Westerberg himself is producing the album. Lou Giordano (Husker Du, Sugar) is co-producing and engineering. Five songs are already done, and we are told they sound simply fabulous. Fourteen songs, in all, are "on the board," which means in progress. "Awesome" was a word our source used. At least one of the finished tracks is "real rockin, like the Replacements." Speaking of which, former Replacement Tommy Stinson dropped by the studio the other day to add a trombone part to a song tentatively called "Trumpet Clip." Now we didn't even known Mr. Stinson played trombone. You learn something new every day. --- A source? A source who talks? Awesome? Inquiring minds want to know. Tommy couldn't have learned to play trombone in the high school band; he didn't stick around long enough. Must sound divinely awful. Nineteen songs. No way can he stuff that into the can and hope it goes away. It's on the horizon, folks. O frabjous day! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Sep 95 7:27:47 EDT From: Duncan deGraffenreid Subject: Re: Matt: Misc. Chatter (alt.music.replacements) Hi Matt, On alt.music.replacements, there was the ribbing of one poor girl who got on trying to replace some unknown record she'd lost & thinking that's what a.m.r. was about. My leg break was serious...the top of the femur isn't supposed to break. They rehab me like a hip replacement (love that word)...my xray pix are quite kewl. Later ... can you come over and Du my lawn? Duncan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 19:39:14 -0700 From: Ahacksaw@eworld.com Subject: Nowhere is My Home NOWHERE IS MY HOME Out to sea in a ship full of holes Even though With a heave and a ho Gonna raise my sails American penthouse is sleep on a bench Crescent wrench Take a shovel and a wrench To this chair (jail?) I ain't deserted Just feel so disconcerted I ain't deserted at all Sun beats down, neck turning red In a toolshed, piss in the dirt Right here on my arm Where they hurt and bled Commit a crime, in the world's a scar Perfect flaw Now I fall apart I ain't deserted Just feel so disconcerted Nowhere That's my home, dear Nowhere That's where I'm from Nowhere Ain't too far from here Pitch a tent in a parking ramp Postage stamp On a milk carton a missing kid Ends up in the trash again today And I got no answers Got no clue What am I to do? Nowhere That's my home dear Nowhere That's where I'm from Nowhere Ain't too far from here I ain't deservin' Just feel so disconcerted I ain't got no answers now I ain't got no home at all No no no Nowhere at all No no no Nowhere at all No no no Nowhere at all... As I think I've mentioned, I have the verse about the missing kid on very good authority...no, not Westerberg himself, but my former friend Peter Jesperson. By the way, Peter has recently moved to Los Angeles, so I'm guessing he didn't get the invitation to your swingin' party. How was it, by the way? Sorry I didn't make it, but I haven't had any time for any kind of fun lately--real life keeps getting in the way. Cheers, Amy [Similar versions were also submitted by Duck, Zelig, and Kathy. - M@] [A copy of these lyrics will soon be added to the misclyrc.txt file. -- M@] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Dean T Roe Date: Wed, 11 Oct 1995 15:10:37 -0500 (CDT) Matt, Thought I'd let everyone know that Tommy is scheduled to play the Uptown Bar in Minneapolis on 10/26. The schedule just said Tommy, so I don't know what to expect. See ya there - I'll be the blond guy w/ the Rev105 t-shirt on. (The opening act is John Ewing.) I've also got a copy of the rare Replacements 12" album "Boink!!" that I am willing to trade. I would like to trade it for the Replacements first single "I'm In Trouble" b/w "If Only You Were Lonely" with the picture sleave. If you're not familiar with the "Boink!!" LP, I have included some info on it below. I realize that this might be a hopeless post, so I might be persuaded to trade for other Mats items that I don't have, so if you'd like to make me a different offer, go right ahead. Be warned though, that I'm desperately holding out for the aforementioned single and I'm not interested in selling the record. Email me if you have an offer or any further questions. Here's some info on the LP: The Replacements: "Boink!!" [1986, Glass Records MGLA016 - a German label] Color Me Impressed / White And Lazy / Within Your Reach / If Only You Were Lonely / Kids Don't Follow / Nowhere Is My Home / Take Me Down To The Hospital Thanks, Dean roex0006@gold.tc.umn.edu P.S. I'm setting up a Mats World Wide Web site. I'll send the location once it is decent enough for people to look at... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: c-koeh@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Chris Koehler) Subject: Swingin' Party '95 short report/'Mats back catalog report Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 15:35:12 GMT ...I'd hoped that there'd be more poeple, but the people that did show were pretty cool and we drove around on Saturday afternoon and saw the sights: the _Let It Be_ house, the sight of the Longhorn Bar, the CC Club, the Oarfolkjokeopus, and the old sight of Twin Tone records. Right across from where Twin Tone used to be is a great record store called Garage D'Or Records and Terry Katzman is a co-owner, I believe. Terry used to be a Replacemats roadie, I think, but anyway is quite knowledgeable about the 'Mats. He happened to be working on Saturday and told us that the company that now owns Twin Tone (Reflex Records?) has taken all the Replacements masters and stopped releasing any of the old titles. They did a run of the some of the old titles on colored vinyl, because they had some sleeves that they wanted to get rid of and that was the last thing released. So essentially all the old Twin Tone 'Mats stuff is now technically out of print. Terry thinks that this means that Reflex is planning on doing something with them, but of course whatever they do is dependent on Paul. I can't imagine that they'd want to sit on this stuff too long, so I think you can assume that there will be some sort of re-release. Terry thought he'd have more details in a month or so, so maybe I'll try calling him then. Chris Koehler c-koeh@maroon.tc.umn.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 18:14:01 -0400 From: BrinkmanT1@aol.com Subject: Mats article The following is an excerpt from an article in a guitar magazine from a few years back entitled, "Alternative Nation" (The Top Twenty Alternative Albums of All Time) Reprinted from Guitar School magazine, July 1993, w/o permission. ______________________________________________________ Number Five: The Replacements, "Hootenanny," Twin/Tone, 1983 The Replacements proved once and for all that you don't have to know how to play an instrument to be in a rock 'n' roll band. Nirvana, Dinosaur Jr, Soul Asylum, and many others owe a great debt to this Minneapolis quartet. *Hootenanny* captures Paul Westerberg and his drinkin' buddies in their youthful innocence, creating brilliant music by singing about everyday events like running a red light ("Run It") or reading the personal ads ("Lovelines"). Hootenanny is '50s folk slang for a creative jam session. *Hootenanny* is just that: reckless abandon, high energy, great riffs, experimentation and inspired lyrics. It takes guts to record a song with each member playing the others' instruments. These guys didn't care. They were having too much fun crankin' it in the basement. "Label wants a hit/And we don't give a (expletive)" they sing in "Treatment Bound." That's the true spirit of rock and roll. --*Robert Burns* ______________________________________________________ Others on the list: #1, REM, Murmur; #2, Sex Pistols, Never Mind the Bullocks...; #3, Ramones; #4, Beastie Boys, Licensed to Ill; #6 Black Flag, Damaged; #7 The Clash, London Calling; #8 Talking Heads, Speaking in Tounges; #9 Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation; #10 The Smiths, Hatful of Hollow... etc. I think Hoot is a great choice... you'd expect Let It Be, or Tim or Pleased To Meet Me, but here they seem to go out on a limb, and also give them a very respectable position on the list. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 29 Aug 95 16:58:02 EDT From: Bill Ruef <102144.3242@compuserve.com> Subject: Rolling Stone Record Guide Matt, Someone may have already submitted this in the past, but in case they haven't... This is the Replacements entry in "The Rolling Stone Record Guide" which came out around 1991 - just in time to include the bands entire official American catalog. The book rated each band's albums on a 1 - 5 star system and gave a little bio. Five stars basically means an essential LP. I should note that the REO Speedwagon entry which appears just before this one in the book contains no less than three LP's that get equal ratings to ASD or Hootennany and higher than Ma or Stink, so take this all with a grain of salt... Reproduced without permission (so sue me...) THE REPLACEMENTS: **1/2 Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash (Twin/Tone, 1981) ** The Replacements Stink (EP) (Twin/Tone, 1982) ***1/2 Hootenanny (Twin/Tone, 1982) ***** Let It Be (Twin/Tone, 1984) *1/2 The Shit Hits the Fans (Twin/Tone, 1985) **** Tim (Sire, 1985) ***** Pleased To Meet Me (Sire, 1987) *** Don't Tell a Soul (Sire, 1989) ***1/2 All Shook Down According to the myth, what made the Replacements so great was that they were so terrible. Ragged, raucous, and rowdy, this Minneapolis foursome not only epitomized the fuck-you attitude of post-punk middle American youth, but found a way of converting that attitude into gloriously tuneful three-chord rock. In fact, there are even those among the faithful who will swear that what ultimately brought the band to ruin was frontman Paul Westerberg's efforts to clean up their act - that without the drunken craziness, the Replacements just weren't the Replacements anymore. Which is complete crap. However much the Replacements' gleeful incompetence added to its performance, the bottom line fo this band has always been the songs - Westerberg's songs to be exact. That much is obvious even on the abysmally recorded "Sorry Ma, Forgot to Take Out the Trash". Part of the appeal was the band's amiably warped sense of humor; "I Hate Music," for instance, builds its chorus around the thrash-fueled couplet "I hate music / It's got too many notes." But the music truly soars when the songs play off Westerberg's irrepressible sense of melody, as on "I Bought a Headache" or 'Otto." That's not much of a factor on "The Replacements Stink", which adds acceleration but otherwise coasts on cheap yuks. "Hootenanny", however, shows impressive growth as Westerberg moves away from three-chord rants and toward ambitiously melodic material like "Color Me Impressed" or his synth-and-drum-machine so-so number, "Within You Reach." With "Let It Be," The Rplacements finally reach musical maturity. That's not to say they shed their youthful exuberance entirely - the album does include such titles as "Tommy Gets His Tonsils Out" and "Gary's Got a Boner" - but the band's energies are better focused, whether exploiting the pop potential of "I Will Dare" or giving in to the trash - rock aesthetic of "Black Diamond" (yes, it is the Kiss classic). Let It Be was also the band's last recording as an indie act (apart from the hard-to-find, harder-to-listen-to live cassette, "The Shit Hits the Fans), but all that the move to major-label status changed was the band's recording budget. As a result, "Tim" benefits from the expertise and perspective of a producer (former Ramone Tommy Erdelyi) wo clarifies the band's sound and reins in its self-indulgence, a bit of discipline that brings out the humor in "Kiss Me on the Bus" while enhancing the hooks in "Left of the Dial" and "Bastards of Young." "Pleased To Meet Me" is perhaps the band's finest moment. Westerberg's writing is irresistible throughout, whether showing off his pop smarts on the imposssibly catchy choruses to "Alex Chilton" or "Can't Hardly Wait," or poking fun at the group's not-quite-underground, not-quite-mainstream status in songs like "I Don't Know." "Don't Tell a Soul" finds the band pulling back a bit, and though its introspective mood adds quite a bit to tunes like "Achin' to Be," the album as a whole feels more like a Westerberg solo project than the next logical step from "Pleased to Meet Me." Things get back on track with "All Shook Down," thanks to typically tuneful rockers like "Merry Go Round" and "When It Began," but by this point, Westerberg dominates things so totally that the Replacements seem a band in name only. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 08:44:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Laura Weislo Subject: lyrics My first submission! Just wanted to give my slant on these lyrics > MEN WITHOUT TIES [AKA MAN WITHOUT TIES] > (German "World Class Fad" b-side, "Knockin On Mine" pro non-album track) > On Saturday they won't catch you in your yard > You're dreaming of tonight's fine cuisine > With a microwave and a library card > It'll taste like plastic, but it'll be faster! (ha) Sing it! I think it is "It will be fast and hot" Such poignant lyrics, they touch me to the quick! Have fun at the Swingin' party! I'll be there in spirit. My band is playing the 22nd, so I can't come. Mr. Tomich will soon be my neighbor - another 'Mats fan in the triangle! Whoopee!!! _____________________________________________________________________________ Laura Weislo ljw@rpiv.mc.duke.edu ______________________________________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 10:36:40 -0400 From: "Heather L. Chakiris" Subject: Paul in the Weirdest Places Hey, Matt! Boy do I wish I could join you all at the Swingin' Party '95; unfortunately, that's the weekend The AIDS Quilt comes to town. Since I'm the media coordinator for the exhibit, I kind of have to be here. Can't wait to hear all about the trip! Leave at least some of the city standing when you're done, okay? I was taking a little roadtrip of my own up to the Allegheny National Forest last weekend, following Route 219 and minding my own business, when a roadside sin caught my eye. Whaddya know -- there's actually a stretch of highway called "The Westerberg Way." Kind of gives a new slant to the old adage "It's Paul's way or the highway," eh? Heather ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: David_Murrow@ahold.nl Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 16:42:00 CET Subject: Paul in 1987 Hey Matt and everyone else -- Hope your Mats weekend was up to expectations. Looking forward to reading some gritty Twin Cities gossip! I was able to access the following article (LA Times, July 26, 1987) on Paul's thoughts after the release of Pleased to Meet Me. Enjoy. David Murrow David.Murrow@corp.ahold.nl ********************************************************** Copyright 1987 The Times Mirror Company Los Angeles Times July 26, 1987, Sunday, Home Edition Calendar section; Page 94; Calendar Desk THE REPLACEMENTS -- STILL STANDING ON THE LEDGE By Chris Willian The Replacements are -- according to who you talk to, and on what day -- variously the world's greatest rock 'n' roll band, the world's loosest and sloppiest rock 'n' roll band, the new Rolling Stones, the new Bachman-Turner Overdrive, poet laureates for America's tail-end-of-the-baby-boom generation, idiot savants, strikingly thoughtful and sensitive, amazingly immature and careless. . . . Or, as singer/songwriter Paul Westerberg admits, "just big babies." Bless them or blame them, there's no disputing that the Replacements have spent much of their eight-year history as incorrigible rock renegades, considered unlikely to ever sing or play a well-polished note with the express purpose of achieving radio air play, much less pleasing an executive. So now that it's been a couple of years since the quartet left its small hometown independent label (Minneapolis' Twin/Tone) and signed with a conglomerate-type company (Sire/Warner Bros.), one might wonder: Which mentality will prevail? And just what sort of steps have the Replacements taken to reconcile themselves to the music business "system"? Not many, though the irony of their position doesn't escape them. The cover of "Pleased to Meet Me," the latest album, pictures the frayed-jean-jacketed arm of a scroungy musician type shaking the diamond-ringed hand of what is presumably an executive. If that wasn't self-commentary enough on their assimilation into the machinery, there's also a tellingly titled track called "I Don't Know." " 'One foot in the door, another one in the gutter' -- that sums us up," says singer/songwriter Paul Westerberg, quoting from the song while lazily nursing a beer in the lounge of the group's Hollywood hotel the day after a recent show. "Just take that line and we'll never have to do another interview. That says it all." The song goes on: "Sweet smell that you adore / Well I think I'd rather smother. . . ." Strong words from a band with strong viewpoints about what it will and will not do to affect the aroma of success. Primary on the list of things not to do as a group is grow up. "The most fun people to be around are the people who retain their youth or retain the fun and silly things you did when you were a teen-ager," says Westerberg, waxing serious in the servitude of lightheartedness. "I hate people that act their age. I guess the seriousness of the band loving a good joke and laughing it up a lot on stage stems from that -- we don't take what we do very seriously." Says Westerberg: "We don't want to fail, but we are going to have fun, and if we don't make it big having fun, then we're not gonna make it big and we're not gonna care about it. We realize that it's our living and we shouldn't play with it so much, but we just can't change that. Because if it became a job and it wasn't any fun, then we'd just as soon do something else that isn't fun, where we can make money. We're already in debt enough; it better be fun." And there does seem to be a target audience for this sort of thing -- an audience much of which is around Westerberg's age (27) or older, and which grew up on the same class/trash pop culture, like early Alice Cooper. He resists any labeling of Replacements records as "classic teen Angst" albums, as some critics have suggested. "I don't write with teen-agers in mind. The stuff comes from me, and I'm just as unsure of what I'm doing now as I was then, in a different way. . . . We reach a lot of maybe frustrated teen-agers who grew into adults that live their teen years 10 years after they should've." Not that Westerberg's songs are without striking maturity and depth. A riff-heavy guitar cruncher like "Bastards of Young" may sound like typical rock bravado at first, but it's really post-nuclear-family tragedy at its most decimating: "The ones who love us best / Are the ones we'll lay to rest / Visit their graves on holidays at best / The ones who love us least / Are the ones we'll die to please. . . ." Those are nagging ghosts of lyrics, the rare kinds of lines that come back to haunt you at different points in your life. What creates special intrigue is that Westerberg consistently mumbles his way through even his best songs. "Now and again," he relates, "someone will come up to me and say, 'I've been waiting two years to ask you: What's the last line in the song on "Tim"?' I like that, for people to really want to listen and figure it out. . .. That's part of my style, too, because I don't enunciate very clearly, singing. Rock 'n' roll wasn't meant to be enunciated clearly, anyway." The Replacements recently lost out on some air play because folks could understand the lyrics. Though the group currently has the No. 1 most-played album on the college radio charts, commercial stations have been unforthcoming with air play, and Sire hoped to rectify that by promoting a song called "The Ledge" to album-rock radio -- but many stations (and MTV) turned it down because it deals with suicide. And this isn't your typical Billy Joel don't-try-it-you-have-so-much- to-live-for suicide song. "The Ledge" is from the point of view of someone who is going to jump. And it's scary as hell, capturing true suicidal feelings with no apologies or explanations: "I'm the boy they can't ignore / For the first time in my life I'm sure / All the love they send up high to pledge / Won't reach the ledge. . . ." "It came from personal experience," says Westerberg, whose melancholy streak runs hand-in-hand with his raucous spirit. "I never stood on a ledge or anything, but I've been messed up before in the past, and I know how it feels. I wanted to give someone a sort of hope in a way, because it ain't that bad. I mean, I've been screwed up, and I'm fine now. You'll get over it. It's not necessarily pointing toward teen-agers, either. "But the board of standards and practices at MTV feels the lyrics are detrimental to the youth of America -- plus they probably don't like the video. But for them to play Motley Crue and n play our video. . . . If it had a bunch of sexist bull . . . , they would've played it. But if it's something deeper, if it's emotions, it's taboo." Sing a sad song and make it better? Celebration, brattiness and abandon figure prominently in the mix as well, but like compatriots Husker Du -- only with a sense of humor -- the Replacements are often at their peak when singing a sad song louder and making it better. "Maybe that is our one and only claim to fame, cryin' in our beer at 120 decibels. We're the loudest crybabies in show business." GRAPHIC: Photo, Replacements' Paul Westerberg: "If (music) became a job and it wasn't any fun, then we'd just as soon do something else." MEL MELCON ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 4 Oct 1995 15:37:55 -0500 From: "Becky Blenkush" Subject: Stain Yer Blood Hey there, everyone! I put a bag over my h and snuck into HMV yesterday to pick up the "Friends" soundtrack (how embarrassing!), and I wanted to get your reactions to Paul's songs=D1has anyone else heard them yet? Here's my initial take on them (subject to retraction after the next 100 listenings, during which I'll convince myself they're masterpieces): SUNSHINE: It initially sounds very much like the original version, then it gradually picks up speed and starts to rock a little bit, but it never really takes off. There are some weird, flat-sounding vocal parts in the chorus and some kinda flute playing at the end that just come in out of nowhere for no apparent reason. In a way, it reminds me of a failed attempt at sampling. I don't know. . .I always kinda thought that bands did cover versions for two reasons: a) because they loved the original tune, in which case they would usually do a version that was a close approximation of the original; or b) because they saw some potential in what was otherwise pretty uncool to begin with, when they would totally blow the original to hell, rework it and make it their own song. But this one does neither, and I just don't see what the point is unless it's to get some radio airplay=D1and I hate to think that he'd do it for that reason. It just feels very disjointed and flat to me, and I have to say I was pretty disappointed. About the only positive things I can say is that his voice sounds great (as always), and since the original song was fairly poppy, it's got a catchy tune. It just might be a hit, but it doesn't do much for me. STAIN YER BLOOD: I held out more hope for this one, and I have to admit that it's much better musically speaking. My friend said it reminded her in a way of "Little Mascara," but it's not quite as edgy or as memorable. (About 10 minutes after I had played it three times, I asked her if she could remember the tune, and the only thing either one of us recalled was the chorus but only the words, not the melody.) It's upbeat and punchy, like "Seein' Her," but the lyrics. . .what is his problem lately? ("Stay the night for fun/I won't stain yer blood"?) Huh? How am I supposed to identify with it if I have no idea what he's talking about? One of my friends insisted Paul was lyrically tapped out after hearing "Dyslexic Heart," and now I'm getting pretty worried abut him myself; there aren't even any clever lines or plot twists in this one. Because the music is pretty 'Mats-like, this one will probably grow on me after a few more listenings, but I never used to have to give one of his songs more than one chance. It used to be love at first sight; now it's more like hoping for the best when you're on a blind date. I don't know. . .I'll be the first to admit that I'm a harsh critic and that I have unnaturally high expectations for him, and next time you hear from me, I'll probably have changed my mind and be busy eating my words. But right now I feel kinda let down, concerned and disappointed. I've consoled myself by saying that these are just throw-aways (like "We Are The Normal"), and he's saving the good stuff for his album (like he did with "All Shook Down"). But he better get his ass in gear soon, I think. Wow!! Ain't I the little pessimist today? Excuse me for carrying on about this for so long. . .must be the depressing rainy weather we're having today. Anyway, I suppose I should go do some work now for a change...hope you're all doing well, and hope to hear from you soon!! Take care now!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 05 Sep 95 18:17:55 EDT From: Bill Ruef <102144.3242@compuserve.com> Subject: Bootleg CD source Hey Matt and fellow Skywayers, I just wanted to pass a tip along to anyone interested in picking up those nifty imported Mats boots you've all heard so much about. A while back someone gave me the address for a mail order company that sells them. As I write this I am listening to "Lucky's Revenge" which arrived today. It came relatively quick and in good shape which leads me to believe this is a trustworhy place to send your hard-earned gelt. The current catalog has the following: The Replacements: ----------------- Shit, Shower, & Shave Hangin' It Up It Ain't Over 'til The Fat Roadies Play Paul Westerberg: ---------------- Gravel Pit Lucky's Revenge They have tons of other stuff boot wise if your into other bands heavily. They only charge $20.00 per disc plus $4 postage for up to 3 discs and $.50 for each addition disc. This is petty reasonable. I paid over $30.00 in Chicago for my copy of Gravel Pit. Anyway, the address is: CD Wherehouse 4779 Transit Road, Apt 11-172 Depew, NY 14043 Drop them a line asking for their catalog, or I imagine you could just order using the prices mentioned above (send a money order for quickest service)! Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 12 Sep 95 18:34:00 EDT From: Bill Ruef <102144.3242@arl-gw-20.compuserve.com> Subject: Rare Songs Discography Matt, This is an attempt to put together a semi-comprehensive list of all the studio recordings (and a handful of live tracks) that have leaked out into the public either via bootleg or official release as B-sides, promos, etc. and are not available on any of the eight official mass produced albums. While there will be some overlap, this is intended as a supplement to //Skyway\\'s discography ('disco.txt'). For officially released materials I've tried to list where the songs are available. I've also made a feeble attempt to keep these in chronological order. Solo releases are listed seperately after the Replacements' list. - Lookin' For Ya (an original version of "Lovelines") (according to Bob Stinson, the first song Paul wrote for the 'Mats) from the Twin/Tone _Trackin' Up The North_ compilation - Careless (alternate version) - Otto (alternate version) - Shiftless When Idle (album version?) - More Cigarettes (alternate version) - I Hate Music (alternate version) - Shut Up (alternate version) from the Peter Jesperson-produced demo for Twin/Tone, 1980-1? - If Only You Were Lonely from the Peter Jesperson-produced sessions from "Sorry Ma" or the aborted sessions for the Westerberg solo project (1982) available on the Glass records album _Boink!!_ and as a b-side of the Twin/Tone "I'm in Trouble" 7" single, 1981 - Sixteen Blue (alternate version) - Who's Gonna Take Us Alive - Temptation Eyes (cover) - Sweet Girl (takes 1-3) from the Peter Jesperson-produced demos for _Let It Be_, 1984 - 20th Century Boy (T-Rex cover) - Hey Good Lookin' (Hank Williams cover, live in Madison, Wisconsin) from the Twin/Tone "I Will Dare" 12" single, 1984 - Nowhere Is My Home from the Alex Chilton-produced demos for _Tim_, 1985 also available on Glass record's _Boink!!_ - Can't Hardly Wait (three versions; two electric, one acoustic "airshaft") - Left Of The Dial (album version) from the Alex Chilton-produced demos for _Tim_, 1985 - Valentine (alternate version) - Birthday Carol - Bundle Up - Red Red Wine (alternate version) - Time Is Killing Us - PO Box (aka: Put An Ad In The Paper) from the demos for _Pleased to Meet Me_, 1986-7? - Route 66 - Election Day from both the Sire "Alex Chilton" and Sire "The Ledge" 12" singles, 1987 - Tossin' & Turnin' - Jungle Rock from Sire "The Ledge" 12" single, 1987 - Can't Hardly Wait (remix) - Cool Water (Paul Rogers cover with Chris Mars vocal) from Can't Hardly Wait remix single, 1987 - Trouble On The Way - Make This Your Home - Run For The Country - Beer For Breakfast - Nude - Goin' Outta My Head - Learn How To Fail - Election Day (acoustic) outtakes from the _Pleased to Meet Me_ recording sessions, 1987 - Nowhere Is My Home (acoustic) ?????????????????????????????????? [if anybody has a lead on this, please write in! - M@] - Date For Church (with Tom Waits on backing vocals) from the Sire "I'll Be You" 7" single, 1989 also available on the Sire "Just Say Mao" complilation - Cruella Deville (the Disney tune from 101 Dalmations) from the _Stay Awake_ Disney LP, 1989 also available on a CD single - Kissin' In Action - Ought To Get Love - Satellite (Tommy Stinson song) - Like A Rollin' Pin (alcohol-laden cover of the Bob Dylan tune) from the "When It Began" CD-5 called _Don't Buy Or Sell: It's Crap_ outtakes from the _All Shook Down_ sessions, 1991 - Ace Of Spades (live) Barefoot and Pregnant compilation (cassette) - I Will Dare (live from their last show in Chicago, July 4th 1991) on WXRT radio station LP PAUL WESTERBERG SOLO STUFF: - A Star Is Bored Melrose Place Soundtrack - Dyslexic Heart Singles soundtrack, World Class Fad CD single 2 - Waiting For Somebody Singles soundtrack, World Class Fad CD single 2 - Answering Machine (live) "World Class Fad" CD single 2 - Can't Hardly Wait (live) "World Class Fad" CD single 1 - Left Of The Dial (live) "World Class Fad" CD single 1 - Another Girl, Another Planet "World Class Fad" CD single 1 (live) - Seein' Her "Knockin' On Mine" CD Single - Men Without Ties "Knockin' On Mine" CD Single - Dice Behind Your Shades "Knockin' On Mine" CD Single (festicle version...this is hilarious!) - Let's Fall In Love Tank Girl soundtrack (duet with Joan Jett) TOMMY STINSON/BASH N' POP SOLO STUFF: - Situation B-side of ??? - Harboring a Fugitive B-side of ??? - Making Me Sick Clerks soundtrack CHRIS MARS SOLO STUFF: - Dawn Dawn B-side of ??? - Back Street Girl Golden Smog promo - Before It Began B-side of ??? - Gymnasium Blues Flexi disc from "The Bob" This list is of course open for additions and corrections - and I didn't include the song(s) from the "Friends" soundtrack since as of this writing that's not out yet officially as of the time of this writing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 05 Sep 95 08:58:40 EDT From: Bill A Ruef <102144.3242@compuserve.com> Subject: the Neighborhoods I've seen me talk about David Minnehan in back issues of //s\\ and wanted to comment a bit about him and his old band The Neighborhoods. I was lucky enough to see the Neighborhoods shortly before they broke up and David went on to join Paul's touring band. For the life of me I can't remember why I saw them because I don't think I had ever heard of them before their show was advertised in the local music press. (I think it might have been on the reccomendation of a friend - in any case I would highly reccomend this method of "discovering" new bands - going to see them when they come around even if you've never heard them - I've found out about several great bands this way). Anyway what little I know about them and David, other than from seeing them and the 2 albums of theirs I now have comes from the Trouser Press Record Guide (a great book with a nice write-up on the Mats and every other "alternative" act you can imagine). [The most recent and final edition of this book is the sixth edition...accept no substitutes! - M@] The Neighborhoods were apparently a fixture on the Boston scene throughout much of the '80s. They put out 4 albums between '84 and '90 on indie labels, and released a self-titled major label debut on Atlantic/3rd stone in 1991. This LP was co-produced by Aerosmith guitarist Brad Whitford (but it's still cool anyway) and contained some new material along with reworkings of some better stuff from their indie catalog. I have the Atlantic album along with one called "Reptile Men". While "R.M." is a decent album, I don't listen to it near as much as the "The Neighborhoods" which contains an incredible lead-off track called "Pure and Easy" (I was shouting for them to play this when I saw Westerberg in '93 but I was too far away to be heard). While they tend to be a little heavier and darker at times then the Replacements, they are in the same general vein. The band was a 3-piece so the bass tended to figure into the songs more prominently giving them a little more down & dirty sound. But they can still kick out a rousing bubble-pop noise fest with the best of them. When I saw them live, it was in a tiny club with a grand total of maybe 12 - 15 people in the audience. They put on a rousing show anyway, and the intimate setting allowd for some fun crowd interaction. At one point an audience member asked David if his penis was limp, refering to the small flacid crowd, to which David responded, "I have no penis." It was a great show and I'd highly reccomend all skywayers check out their stuff. I'd like to hear more comments from people familiar with the band (particularly that person who knows David Minnehan) if Matt doesn't mind giving a little air-time to semi-non-Replacements-related material. Keep up the great work Matt. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 10:16:48 CDT From: Matthew Proud Subject: Westerberg influence on Bottlerockets Matt, This is a litte snip of an interview which was posted on the Postcard2 mailing list. This again shows the mats' huge influence on many of the bands of today. This is a quote from Brian Henneman (of the Bottle Rockets) from an interview which was written by Craig Aaron (the a+p is for art + performance). a+p: Do you like the new music coming out today? You name-check Dinosaur Jr. on the album. Henneman: I'm from the old Thin Lizzy school. I like Thin Lizzy and stuff like that. But I love the Replacements, too. I'm so damn out of touch that to me the Replacements are a new band. I loved Paul Westerberg when he wrote that thing and said all the time people were calling them punk rock and he was thinking Thin Lizzy. I understand that sentiment exactly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Sep 95 14:24:23 CDT From: tedj@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com (Teddie James-CSIC_Publications) Howdy! Talent Show, the Skyway Replacements tribute tape that I've been working on over the past year, is almost complete. I have 16 songs that were contributed by members of Skyway and 14 cover and tribute songs by professional bands that came from various bootlegs, records, and CDs. Thanks to everyone that helped. You'll all get credit in the tribute. I haven't quite decided if I want to put them all on one tape or make two separate tapes. Any suggestions? By the way, this tribute is being done completely free of profit (kinda like the Mats). It's meant to be circulated among friends the same way we trade mix tapes and bootlegs. I still need artwork for the cover. Please send your ideas. I was going to close submissions, but I figure that since Skyway was down all summer, a few new people might have subscribed. So I'll give you until October 14th to get your covers to me. Also, if you know of any bands that covered the Replacements or wrote tribute songs, please let me know. Remember that talent is optional. Also, quality is not that important. Use a jam box, four-track, whatever to record these. And if you're going to cover a song, do it in your own style. When it's all said and done, we should have a really nice finished product. I'll announce when it's ready. Just to give you an idea, here is a listingof what I have already. ------------------- SKYWAY BANDS King Alcohol -Here Comes a Regular -Skyway -Never Aim to Please -Waitress in the Sky -Another Girl, Another Planet -Even Here We Are The TedTones -Talent Show -Here Comes A Regular -Hootenanny -Within Your Reach Feedbags -I'm In Trouble The Geeky Bunch -Bastards of Young Mud Ride -Color Me Impressed -Alex Chilton -Kiss Me On the Bus -Takin' a Ride PROFESSIONAL BANDS -Crash Test Dummies - Androgenous (live and studio) -Dash Rip Rock - Can't Hardly Wait (live) -BoDeans - Can't Hardly Wait (live) -Young Fresh Fellows - If Only You Were Lonely (live) -They Might Be Giants - We're the Replacements (studio) -Alex Chilton - I'm a Replacement (live) -Joey Kline - I Will Dare (studio) -Neighborhoods - Another Girl, Another Planet (live) -Mighty Lemon Drops - Another Girl, Another Planet (studio) -Poi Dog Pondering - Can't Hardly Wait (live) -The Senseless Things - Answering Machine (studio) -Bomb Pop - Bob Stinson (studio) -Surf Trio - Another Girl, Another Planet (studio) -Chris Stamey - "That's why I Hate (the Replacements)" (studio) -------------------------- Just for your information, someone on alt.music.replacements is compiling a tribute of his own. It's called "Let It Aunt Be." Watch a.m.r for details. There is already a Mats tribute out in Athens, GA. It's a benefit for the Athens Humane Society. There is also a Bob Stinson tribute in the works here in Austin. It should be done sometime in October. Any news, ideas, whatever, regarding our tribute, Talent Show, please send 'em to: Ted James 2324 Aldford Dr. Austin, TX 78745 512-441-6428 tedj@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com Thanks, Ted ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ fin! --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-- Matthew Tomich The //Skyway\\: The Replacements Mailing List 857 Loveland Drive ---------------------------------------------- Omaha, NE 68114-5339 To subscribe, send "subscribe skyway-l" in the (402)-397-2100 body of a letter to lists@phoenix.creighton.edu --==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-- "I'm hyper enough as it is." Superchunk